Ep. 20: Max Keiser & Stacy Herbert - Bitcoin, Liberty & Hope
You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson - Ein Podcast von Efrat Fenigson
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My guests today are Max Keiser & Stacy Herbert, Bitcoin OGs and advisors to president Nayib Bukele in El Salvador, leading various initiatives. Stacy is also known as the “Fairy godmother”, she’s a broadcaster, writer, and producer, and co-hosting, with lots of grace, wit and sharpness, the “Orange Pill” podcast with Max and formerly co-hosting "The Keiser Report". Max is a broadcaster, filmmaker, and financial analyst, Wikipedia has: “known for his outspoken views on economics and finance”, and I’ll translate that to “badass, funny and sharp human”. Max began his career on Wall Street before transitioning to media. In this episode we discuss the Bitcoin movement and its impact on El Salvador and the world. Max & Stacey share what life in El Salvador is like these days with Bukele’s new policies, economic growth, and the organic growth of the Bitcoin community. We touched on Bitcoin, Gold, and CBDCs, and how Bitcoin is a true instrument of freedom and sovereignty. We also explored the risks of institutional involvement in Bitcoin, ETFs, and possible price manipulations. Watch/listen: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work here or using Bitcoin here Max’s Twitter | Stacy’s Twitter | Orange Pill Podcast on YouTube Efrat's Twitter | Telegram | You're The Voice links | Efrat’s links My takeaways Bitcoin has the potential to empower individuals in totalitarian regimes and Western democracies alike. Bitcoin's value goes beyond its price and technology, offering a new way of thinking about money and human potential. The organic growth of the Bitcoin community and its resistance to manipulation are amongst its key strengths. El Salvador is leading the way in adopting Bitcoin as a national currency and building projects and initiatives around it. 00:00 - Coming Up in this Episode 00:40 - Introduction 03:10 - Renaissance 2.0 - Building in El Salvador 08:10 - End of Fiat Era in Totalitarian Regimes & Western Democracies 11:30 - El Salvador’s Monetary & Economic Changes, Immigration 14:40 - Can We See a “Fourth Turning” Under the Bitcoin Standard? 19:40 - Bitcoin’s Philosophy, Paradigm Shift, spirituality 21:40 - Bitcoin's Organic Growth 25:20 - Bitcoin vs CBDCs in Western Democracies 30:20 - Bitcoin as an Asset Class, Price Manipulations Like in Gold Markets 36:00 - Risks in Wall Street and Institutional Involvement 37:00 - Delivery of Assets: Oil, Gold & Bitcoin 40:00 - Bitcoin Conferences & Good Times in El Salvador 43:00 - Message of Hope