A stroppy brat, a chocolate log and the cover of the Gay Times. I'm sorry BUT, it's Jack Rooke! This week Kathy is joined by author and writer of Big Boys, Jack Rooke.  To get the best discount off your NordVPN plan - go to https://nordvpn.com/wheretheresawill Want the episodes ad free AND extra content from Kathy? 6 Feet Under steps away from fantasy and rifles through your real funeral tales. Head to wheretheresawilltheresawake.com to subscribe. AND If you've got a story for us, send it over to [email protected]. A Sony Music Entertainment production.   Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices