In this episode We discuss two moving videos The first is a video by one of Rye’s favorite youtuber Jon Jondai, about a monk who came to his village to save the last forest and created effectively a sustainability center, and changed many of the village’s practice to be more sustainable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf_Po4-bnyY&t=76s Saving the last forest in the village. The second video is about a 23 year old food forest, also known as a forest garden. Miles is inspired by the gardener’s acceptance of the wildness of his garden and all the magic that brings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJFL0MD9fc Amazing 23-Year-Old Permaculture Food Forest - An Invitation for Wildness It is followed by a philosophical discussion touching on the idea of a perfection, and the limitations of science.