Adaptive Leadership - Interview with Professor Mary Uhl-Bien TCU

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In this podcast I am talking with Professor Mary Uhl-Bien from the Neeley School of Management at TCU in Texas about a paper she published with Michael Arena titled 'Leadership for organizational adaptability: A theoretical synthesis and integrative framework'.   Transcript: David Wilkinson:          Hello again. Today I'd like to introduce a professor ... we're talking to Professor Mary Uhl-Bein. She is professor of management in the department of management entrepreneurship and leadership at TCU in Fort Worth in Texas. David Wilkinson:          Welcome Mary. Mary Uhl-Bien:             Thank you for having me. David Wilkinson:          It's an absolute pleasure. What we're interested in is this paper which is ... I came across recently which is about leadership for organizational adaptability, the theoretical synthesis and integrative framework. David Wilkinson:          Mary can you just, just to give us a bit of background, can you just take a couple of minutes to introduce yourself? Give the listeners a little bit of background about your personal journey so far and your academic history about how you got here in terms of your research interests. Mary Uhl-Bien:             Sure. I'm the BNSF railway endowed professor of leadership at TCU here in Forth Worth, Texas. I've been here for four years and prior to that I was in Nebraska. Prior to Nebraska I was in Florida and then prior to that I was in Alaska. David Wilkinson:          Wow. Mary Uhl-Bien:             We grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio, so from all the moves, my husband and I realized that we must be high on sensation seeking. You learn about yourself by seeing what you do. Mary Uhl-Bien:             We went from Cincinnati to Alaska which was about as far as you could go in the country, and then we went from Alaska to Florida which was a bit ... again, about as extreme as you could go. We then went back up a bit and now we're down, we decided we like the south and the warm. Mary Uhl-Bien:             We live here with our youngest son and our Siberian dog which, poor thing, she's supposed to be in the north and she's down here in the heat. And then my two older children, we left one behind in Nebraska ,so he just graduated college there. And my daughter's actually in England, over with all of you. She's living in London right now. She graduated with her master's from Oxford last year. David Wilkinson:          Really? In what? What was she ... Mary Uhl-Bien:             She did it in evolutionary biology which is a field in anthropology. She's working now with a company in London, they're doing data automation. David Wilkinson:          Fantastic. Great. I hope she enjoyed herself at Oxford. I'm sure she did. Mary Uhl-Bien:             She loved it. I think she got into it because of Harry Potter. David Wilkinson:          Really? That's fantastic. Mary Uhl-Bien:             Yeah, Harry Potter is based on it, I wasn't aware of that but she told me. David Wilkinson:          Yeah, a lot of the scenes were shot in the colleges here so absolutely. Oxford's a weird place. I came here to do a master's and never left, so it's just become a life choice. Mary Uhl-Bien:             I can see that, it's a wonderful place. David Wilkinson:          Have you been? Mary Uhl-Bien:             I have, yes. David Wilkinson:          Fantastic. I love it. Anyway, great. David Wilkinson:          That's fantastic. Could you just give us a quick overview about how you ended up doing this particular paper, the research that went behind it, and include any previous research that you've been involved in that this was actually built on? Mary Uhl-Bien:             Sure. I was not planning to do a PhD. I was recruited into the PhD program by George [Grain 00:03:10] who studied leader-member exchange theory, he was the father of that theory. I was in his undergraduate class and I guess I was really obnoxious, I kept asking him a lot of questions and challenging him and engaging w

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