The Costs of Population Denialism | Helen Kopnina

We were scheduled to speak with Helen Kopnina and Haydn Washington on December 16th when this episode was recorded. We are very sad to report that Haydn died on December 10th after a battle with cancer. We are grateful to be joined by his friend and colleague, Helen, and we dedicate this episode to the memory of Haydn Washington. Highlights of this episode include: Helen’s tribute to Haydn and his uncompromising commitment to sustainability and justice; The definition of ecocentrism and Helen’s personal introduction to an eco-centric worldview through nature’s healing power; Helen’s personal experiences of living in Soviet Union, the US, Europe, and India and how those informed her views on degrowth and sustainability; The social and ecological costs of population denialism, and the loss of academic integrity on this topic; A recognition of our need to unite efforts across the different liberation movements in order to maximize our impacts against systems of oppression. See episode website for show notes and links: https://www.populationbalance.org/podcast/helen-kopnina   ABOUT US OVERSHOOT | Shrink Toward Abundance [Formerly The Overpopulation Podcast] OVERSHOOT tackles today’s interlocked social and ecological crises driven by humanity’s excessive population and consumption. The podcast explores needed narrative, behavioral, and system shifts for recreating human life in balance with all life on Earth. With expert guests from wide-ranging disciplines, we examine the forces underlying overshoot: from patriarchal pronatalism that is fueling overpopulation, to growth-biased economic systems that lead to consumerism and social injustice, to the dominant worldview of human supremacy that subjugates animals and nature. Our vision of shrinking toward abundance inspires us to seek pathways of transformation that go beyond technological fixes toward a new humanity that honors our interconnectedness with all beings.  Hosted by Nandita Bajaj and Alan Ware. Brought to you by Population Balance.  Learn more at populationbalance.org Copyright 2025 Population Balance