Prole Art Threat: The Fall, post-punk and popular modernism

Juliet talks to Owen Hatherley (author of 'Militant Modernism', 'A Guide to the New Ruins of Great Britain', 'Landscapes of Communism' and many other books) and David Stubbs (formerly of Melody Maker, and a writer on '1996 and the End of History' as well as Krautrock and electronic music) about the life and work of Mark E. Smith, who sadly died last month. They discuss The Fall in the context of post-industrial Manchester, the post-punk scene, a changing (and ever less intelligent) music press, modernist literature and pop culture, and think about the group's legacy. WORKS REFERENCED LoneLady - Hinterland (2015) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W6w8fQauwg Julie Campbell on Mark E. Smith - http://lonelady.co.uk/blog/rip-mark-e-smith-5th-march-1957-24th-january-2018/ The Fall discography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fall_discography Mark E. Smith reads the football scores - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUiPs1PxKo 'I feel like Alan Minter' graffiti - https://rollerderbyonfilm.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/i-feel-like-alan-minter.html 1970s graffiti - https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/feb/03/the-writing-on-the-wall-1970s-pioneers-of-british-graffiti J. G. Ballard William Blake Thomas Carlyle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Carlyle Michael Clark C86 (NME compilation tape, 1986) Philip K. Dick FRIEDRICH ENGELS, The Condition of the Working Class in England (1845) - https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/condition-working-class-england.pdf Gang of Four, 'Entertainment!' (LP, 1979) Antonio Gramsci George Grosz Wyndham Lewis H. P. Lovecraft FILIPPO TOMMASO MARINETTI, 'The Founding and Manifesto of Futurism' (1909) The Passage, 'Troops Out' (7", 1981) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXBTFNE7qr0 Ezra Pound SIMON REYNOLDS, Rip it Up and Start Again: Postpunk 1978-84 (2005) Sex Pistols, 'God Save the Queen' (7", 1977) DAVE SIMPSON, The Fallen (2008) MARK E. SMITH, Renegade (2008) Talking Heads, Remain in Light (LP, 1980)