17. Adam Ferrier (Consumer Psychologist & Founder of Thinkerbell)

The BSPHN's Annual Conference is running from 9th - 11th February 2021. Sign up to attend now and get a year's free membership. In this episide, Stu is joined by Adam Ferrier, Founder & Chief Thinker at Thinkerbell, an agency that practices measured magic - bridging marketing science and hard core creativity. Thinkerbell won AdNews' 2019  Creative Agency of the Year. Adam is also author of two books: "The Advertising Effect: How to Change Behaviour" & "Stop Listening to the Customer: Try Hearing Your Brand Instead".Adam shares how he was always interested in money and people which led him into the world of consumer psychology. His thesis was on what makes people 'cool' and spent time training in the clinical psychology model, but soon found that this alone didn't offer the most effective solutions.Adam and Stu discuss what makes effective behaviour change campaigns from across sectors; from the effort paradox in IKEA's furniture, to why weight loss control groups lose more weight than the experimental groups. They look at some of the public health campaigns that Adam has worked on in Australia: Man Up, a documentary on how men express themselves to broaden stereotypes; ABC Goes Mental As, a dedicated week of programming for Mental Health; Doing Nothing Does Harm,  an online campaign giving people the option to stop sexist behaviour, which involved people in the campaign as well as mimicked the desired behaviour.The pair look at what public health can learn from marketing and advertising - creating a category of cause, understanding the irrationality of people's choices and the influence of reality TV. To illustrate this Adam and Stu give examples of Milgram's experiments, asking why you bought the shoes you're wearing, and how picking up dog poo makes you feel when you do, or don't, own a dog. They both also recommend Rory Sutherland's book "Alchemy: The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense" as a starting point for anyone looking to understand and change behaviours. Adam also discusses the need to find a brand category, like the work of OMGyes which fills the niche of education around sexual pleasure.Adam leaves us with what he is looking at and working on in behavioural science at the moment: s p a c e - where ideas meet influence and DOA - a social cause agency working with business, brands, government and movements to have a positive impact on the world.Contact & more information:Adam: Twitter, LinkedInStu: Twitter, LinkedIn, Stu's blogs

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Welcome to the Real World Behavioural Science (RWBS) podcast, where we look at how behavioural and social sciences are being used in the real world to help change the public’s health, for good. The RWBS podcast is created by the Behavioural Science and Public Health Network (www.BSPHN.org.uk) and is aimed at people working in public health, academia and industry, who have an interest in how behavioural science is being used to improve health and wellbeing.Each month, Stu King (BSPHN Committee Member and founder & CEO of behaviour change specialists BeeZee Bodies) and Dr Tiago Moutela (Head of Behavioural Science at BeeZee Bodies), interview professionals from the worlds of public health, academia and industry, who are using behavioural science to help change people’s lives. We have episodes featuring: - Professor Jim McManus - Co-founder of the BSPHN & Director of Public Health, Hertfordshire County Council, UK - Dr Amy Bucher – Behavioural Scientist at MadPow, Boston, USA - Dr Nick Cavill – Quasi-academic and Director of a Public Health Consultancy, UK - Professor Chris Armitage – Professor of Health Psychology, University of Manchester, UK - Rich Sheridan – CEO and Chief Storyteller at Menlo Innovations, Ann Arbour, USA- Dr Justin Varney - Director of Public Health at Birmingham City Council, UK - Mike Kelly - Visiting Fellow at Cambridge University Institute of Public Health, UK - Wendy Wills - University of Hertfordshire- Kim Roberts - HENRY We have some great guests in the pipeline from across industry, public health and academia and from across the world, including: - Samuel Salzer - Habits Weekly, Sweden - Tim Chadborn - PHE Behavioural Insights Team Subscribe now!