19 | How To Build A Free Society ~ Karl Widerquist

The idea of Universal Basic Income (UBI) is simple: Everyone should have an income. And that they should have it whether they work or not. Indeed, its simplicity has made UBI an attractive policy suggestion for many on both the left and the right. But sometimes the practical virtues of UBI can distract us from the deeper significance of this idea. Karl Widerquist is an economist and political philosopher who has campaigned for UBI since the 90s. And he thinks that it is a practical idea. But he also thinks that it can remedy something deeper than government bureaucracies. He thinks that it can remedy our social contract. For Widerquist, UBI is our best tool to navigate the difficult waters between elitist liberalism and oppressive communism. Yet somewhere beyond those waters lies a genuinely free society. And he thinks we can get there very soon.  This is an important argument. But it is also a very stimulating one. Indeed, Widerquist‘s treatment of the topic takes us from the biases of John Locke to the hunting grounds of medieval peasants. In this discussion, Dr Widerquist and Ilari discuss topics such as: Why UBI has friends on both sides of the political divide Why UBI is needed for a (genuinely) free society Modern poverty and the problem with "negative vs positive freedoms" Why modernity is not a land of the free (or how the masses lost access to the means of food production) The freedoms of our ancestors, from hunter-gatherers to peasants The problem with "owning" natural resources John Locke's mistake The role of the enclosure movements (in Europe) and colonialism (outside of Europe) Why Widerquist is not a Marxist UBI vs the Nordic welfare state What happened in Finland when the government tested a UBI Why UBI promotes respect, kindness, and unselfishness. _________ Please consider becoming a supporter of On Humans. Even small monthly donations can make a huge impact on the long-term sustainability of the program. Visit: ⁠Patreon.com/OnHumans ⁠ Get in touch: [email protected] _________ Technical terms mentioned Universal basic income or UBI (also known as Basic Income Guarantee) / Negative income tax (similar in outcome to a UBI) / Positive vs negative freedoms / The enclosure movement Names mentioned Milton Friedman / Isaiah Berlin / Thomas Paine / Henry George / Herbert Spencer / Gerald Allan Cohen / Michael Otsuka / John Locke / Thomas Hobbes / Jean-Jacques Rousseau / David Hume Mentioned work Isaiah Berlin lectures Prehistoric Myths in Modern Political Theory (Widerquist & McCall 2017) Prehistory of Private Property (Widerquist & McCall 2021)

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Conversations with leading scholars about human nature, human condition, and the human journey. From the origins of war to the psychology of love, each topic brings fresh insights into questions such as: Where do we come from? What brings us together? Why do we love? Why do we destroy? Support the show: Patreon.com/OnHumans Articles to read: OnHumans.Substack.com The show is hosted by Ilari Mäkelä, a London-based science communicator with a background in Psychology and Philosophy, both Western (BA, Oxford) and Eastern (MPhil, Peking University).