When is a test not a test? with Daniel Terhorst-North

When is a test not a test? Clare Sudbery talks to Daniel Terhorst-North about all things testing - including why unit tests are not tests, and why “Test Driven Development” would be better named “Example Guided Design.” Daniel Terhorst-North is a technology and organisational change specialist who has been coaching, coding and consulting for over 25 years. He applies systems thinking, lean and agile principles to solving complex business and technical problems. Join our mailing list: https://www.madetech.com/resources/made-tech-connect. Our theme tune is “For The Miles” by Richard Murray. Episode links: The Fearless Organisation, by Prof Amy Edmondson, Google’s Project Aristotle, Dr Nicole Forsgren, Virginia Satir, The Pragmatic Programmer, by Andy Hunt and Dave Thomas, The Goal by Eli Goldratt, We need to talk about testing - article by Daniel , Kent Beck on Stack Overflow about writing as few tests as possible, Paul Zenon, Liz Keogh on Randy Silver’s podcast re estimation, Daniel’s website, Daniel at Goto 2021, Daniel (Tastapod) on Twitter. https://tinyurl.com/podcast-making-tech-better for links and info.

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