Bonus: Get Off the Apps! With Jon Birger

Meredith chats with business writer and journalist Jon Birger about why he thinks we should get off the apps and seek connection in other ways. Birger is the author of the books Date-Onomics: How Dating Became a Lopsided Numbers Game and Make Your Move: The New Science of Dating and Why Women Are in Charge. Email us at [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices