Hot for War

In this week’s episode of London Calling, James and Toby engage in a bit of throat-clearing about James’s meeting with Jason Miller, CEO of Gettr, then get to the main event – Putin’s invasion of Ukraine – which they disagree about. James is sceptical about the fact that so much of the MSM is “hot for war," as he puts it, while Toby argues that the reason there is almost universal condemnation of Putin is because he has engaged in an unprovoked act of military aggression against an independent sovereign state and his forces are currently bombing civilians. James insists it’s “more complicated” than that and believes the political leader of Ukraine, as well as the leaders of the West, bear some responsibility for the crisis. Then, in Culture Corner, James says how much he’s enjoying jeen-yuhs: A Kanye Trilogy (Netflix), while Toby continues to praise Pam and Tommy (Hulu), although he’s not convinced Pam is quite as innocent as she’s portrayed by Lilly James. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices