Prompted by Steve asking 'Are we losing the truth?' Our podcasters notice how our relationship to the truth is being pulled in multiple directions - be it government, social media, mainstream media - we are, it seems, simultaneously hunting for the truth, but also easily persuaded into believing anything is the truth. Clare and Steve take this hypothesis into the coaching and supervision space and ask what happens if we as the coach or supervisor chase the truth?  We explore what it might mean to 'lean out' to see more and to 'bathe in the not knowing'.