The origins of the 'Rick Roll'; 2021 in U.S. labor movements

In this excerpt of an "Endless Thread" podcast, hosts Amory Sivertson and Ben Brock Johnson talk with singer Rick Astley, whose video for the song "Never Gonna Give You Up" has become the internet meme we call "Rick-Rolling." And, U.S. labor movements captivated headlines this year. Harley Shaiken, professor and labor economist at the University of California Berkeley, reflects on the year in labor.