Making friends as an adult; Lab-bred chimpanzee dilemma

Making friends isn't always easy. We revisit host Peter O'Dowd's conversation with psychologist and University of Maryland professor Marisa G. Franco about the difficulties of making friends as an adult and tips for meeting someone new. And, many lab-bred chimpanzees are living in sanctuaries that can't afford to take care of them without extra help. Rachel Fobar, a National Geographic investigative reporter who looked into this dilemma, joins us.