Interview with Paul Hellier, July 22, 2025, Part 2

Many thanks to Paul Hellier of Fair Food Forager, for having me back on his podcast. In this second part of the conversation, we discussed:

* network-centric warfare and human bodies as nodes on a network;

* AI and a society of maximum efficiency vs. a free society;

* the IBM and the Holocaust, Operation Phoenix, the information liquidation model, and social media;

* Palantir, the CIA, and the privatization of Total Information Awareness;

* the transformation of Facebook and YouTube from relatively free platforms to censorship machines;

* information warfare driving people from one online pen to the next (social media as a social containment mechanism);

* using digital technologies (including digital currencies) to “switch people off”;

* meta glasses and the complete erosion of privacy;

* the battle for the brain — how advanced are the relevant technologies?;

* neurological control one person at a time?;

* Neuralink — a psy-op?;

* the removal of ethical frameworks in times of war and experimenting on entire populations;

* from “no pixie dust” to real technologies, no longer sci-fi;

* NASA’s “IT/Bio/Nano era”;

* the critical inflection point that is being reached as digital currencies, AI.gov, the digital state, etc. are all being rolled out;

* why I do not see parallel societies as a durable solution;

* the importance of mass non-compliance;

* a century of propaganda and psy-ops to impede the development of class consciousness;

* the need for a positive vision to galvanize resistance;

* goodness, truth, beauty, and the role of conscience;

* the need to move from conspiratainment to action;

* the war on children; and

* reasons for optimism.

A video of the full two-part interview can be watched below.

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