EP189 How Google Does Security Programs at Scale: CISO Insights

Guest: Royal Hansen, CISO, Alphabet Topics: What were you thinking before you took that “Google CISO” job? Google's infrastructure is vast and complex, yet also modern. How does this influence the design and implementation of your security programs compared to other organizations? Are there any specific challenges or advantages that arise from operating at such a massive scale? What has been most surprising about Google’s internal security culture that you wish you could export to the world at large?  What have you learned about scaling teams in the Google context? How do you design effective metrics for your teams and programs? So, yes, AI. Every organization is trying to weigh the risks and benefits of generative AI–do you have advice for the world at large based on how we’ve done this here? Resources: EP75 How We Scale Detection and Response at Google: Automation, Metrics, Toil CISA Secure by Design EP20 Security Operations, Reliability, and Securing Google with Heather Adkins EP91 “Hacking Google”, Op Aurora and Insider Threat at Google “Delivering Security at Scale: From Artisanal to Industrial” SRE book: CHapter 5: Toil Elimination SRS book: Security as an Emergent Property What are Security Invariants? EP185 SAIF-powered Collaboration to Secure AI: CoSAI and Why It Matters to You “Against the Gods - Remarkable Story of Risk” book