In this wide-ranging conversation with Laura Henry-Allain MBE, Black Ballad's CEO and co-founder Tobi Oredein discusses Laura's groundbreaking work, JoJo & Gran Gran and they get real about working motherhood and mum guilt.Follow Laura on Twitter and Instagram.Laura's book 'My Skin, Your Skin: Let's Talk About Race, Racism and Empowerment' is available now and you can watch the latest episodes of JoJo & Gran Gran on BBC iPlayer.Follow Black Ballad on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. Let us know what you think about this episode on Twitter by using the hashtag #BBSurvivalGuide.Not yet a member of Black Ballad? Sign up and use the code ‘THRIVE’ for a discount for 50% off 12 months membership.The theme music for this podcast was produced by Dar’rell Banks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.