The guest interview for this episode is with Charla Hayden, M. A. Charla is a freelance organizational consultant with many years of experience. She has also been on the Boards of the A. K. Rice Institute (AKRI) and GREX (an affiliate of AKRI). Charla has a long and distinguished career in group relations work; she has consulted on and directed many group relations conferences. In this interview Charla and I have an interesting and lively discussion about her origins in group relations work, her philosophy about conferences and directing, and how group relations has impacted her life.