Bear Grylls? ❌ Mat Grills ✅ What do you get when you put an ultramarathon runner next to two podcast guys and three mics? Listen to this episode to find out 😉 Take a seat with our special guest, as we explore countless topics. From the upsides of suffering, to raising kids in an instant-gratification world, join Steve, Luke, and (our 3rd!) Mat as we talk life. This has been Aus Table Talk. Enjoy!